Then, Cessna built a tougher Citation which you see today - more ready for fractional use. Taking back control as we lined up, Villi held the brakes using the top of the toe pedals, advanced the power levers to 97.6 percent, and we accelerated briskly to 120 knots. Avantair and the FAA may call it voluntary, but it's all semantics. While its fleet was grounded, Avantair outsourced trips to third-party charter operators or, in some instances, told customers it was unable to conduct their flights, a spokesman told AIN. Cabin dimensions are spacious compared to a Beechcraft King Air and more in line with a midsize jet. Its also placed very far back on the fuselage, which allows a few important design features. In fact, Avantair late last year took possession of the 100th Avanti delivered in the United States, which has been far and away the models best market. A most serious maintenance error especially since the elevator installation work would have required a RII type (double) inspection. departed the aircraft. On Saturday, fractional provider Avantair grounded its entire fleet of about 60 Piaggio Avanti twin turboprops to conduct a comprehensive examination of all Thats slightly less than 100 gallons per hour, a figure light jets simply cant touch. My last four years have been spent flying equipment with fly-by-wire controls and the Avantis flying controls are conventionally connected via cables, pulleys, push pull rods, and bell cranks. Today's grounding is the 4th time in 2 weeks they have grounded the fleet, but the previous times they had slowly returned airplanes to service. It was spot on. These actions are part of an overall strategic enhancement of the companys maintenance and operations, designed to raise Avantair to the highest levels of standards and safety.. I have only been an owner for a short time but the flights I have taken have been flawless;The pilots seemed happy and very professional. To date, of the aircraft in the fleet that have been inspected, there have been no compliance or airworthiness issues. A friend owns a Ill let Peter Garrison work out both the semantics and aerodynamics of the question (if those two disciplines would differ on the subject). RMR, if you are in Vegas, have you looked at AirSprint as an alternative? The hours they slave him out for is shameful I for one an very hopeful this whole episode will be behind us soon and that the company becomes gets stronger. Yes, the Captain, a mere mortal and an infallible being, DID miss the elevator on his post flight inspection. Though the very basic levers dont look as though they have reverse capability, they do, though it requires a healthy lift on the levers to get them back over the gate to provide propeller braking to slow things down on the ramp and taxiways. I am under a recent lease agreement. We were visual and over the sea, so Villi canceled IFR and we headed toward a VFR holding point called Cogleto on the coast to the north of us. Both flights continued to their destinations without further incident. The twin turboprop Avanti EVO is the third-generation version of the Piaggios Avanti P.180, a model introduced in the 1990s that led to the creation of Piaggio Aero Industries. They have made a challenging job fun and did their best to service our Owners and fellow employees. I flew with him last month. Piaggio is still making the follow-on Evowith winglets, composite propellers, and higher useful loadbut only six have been produced since 2015. Piaggios appearance at the Singapore Airshow in February lifted hopes somewhat that the design can survive. Piaggio Aero, on the other hand, is still steadily producing its model. Only records that are readily Again, to me, the control force on the rudder appears heavy, but effective, and the yaw is easily contained. No nose was visible ahead, but down and to the right from my seat I could see the tip of the forward wing and the shapely winglet was at my four oclock. This, along with the airplanes great cabin and operating economies, has made the Avanti II the airplane that has helped create the remarkable success of charter and fractional operator Avantair, which operates 57 Avantis. Well, pretty much all sold out. No furloughs or termination?? The engines have pneumatic boots on the intake combining with an engine particle deviator door to avoid ice entering the engine core and a warm bleed air supply to the engine oil cooler intake. If Avantair does not make it through this we could probably partner of a cheap Piaggio. We are confident we are laying the groundwork necessary to offer outstanding service and reliability going forward.. If Avantair doesn't do this, FAA will shut them down. And while I have spoken mainly about our pilots, I would like to commend my fellow employees, especially maintenance, in the other departments. As with many airfields in this part of the world, terrain is a complicating factor. All rights reserved. Several years ago I shared a King Air 200 with another company which was great until the partner got into financial trouble and couldn't pay their half. He sighted the runway at 50 ft above the missed approach point. Best for: Superior speed When Italys leading aerospace manufacturing company released the Piaggio Avanti EVO, they delivered on three key business demands: speed, comfort, and cost-effectiveness.Piaggio Aerospace blended the very best in Italian design with superb craftsmanship to create a high-performance aircraft that not only turns As of today, about 40 of Avantairs airplanes were back in service after the inspections, and the St. Petersburg, Fla.-based company expects to have its entire fleet flying again by Thursday. The seats are finished in black leather with the owners initials embossed into the headrest and with a cabin height of 5.74 ft, it is comfortable to move around the full length. We took up a westerly heading for our return to Villanova. That said, they never even sent me a quote, which I got elsewhere for a king air (and a Lear 55, I am taking the King Air). We were light and it was slightly colder than standard, both of which help boost true airspeed numbers by at least a few knots. Villi and I then headed to Genoa for some instrument approaches. Villi led the way, providing an excellent demonstration. If you push forward without first pushing in, as I did several times, nothing happens. Both crews included experienced professionals that could have easily been flying somewhere else. Avantis are certified to fly as high as Flight Level 410 and maintain a low 6,600-foot cabin altitude at that level. Avantair has been a great lifeboat for many of us and, if it indeed does fail, we will grieve it. Thank you! To demonstrate the low-speed aileron control, Lorenzo then pulled back to the buffet and effortlessly rolled on 80 degrees of bank and then recovered to level flight. You fly final at around 120 knots; when you pull back on the power as you land, the nose rises slightly, the mains touch, and you relax back pressure and prepare to get stopped, a job that is greatly aided by big carbon brakes and extremely effective prop braking. The Avanti is has been around since 1990, providing the luxury of a jet with the versatility of a turbo prop. Now thats not bad for the performance you get (6 pax plus bags 1300-1500nm). Grant handled the radio tuning. I still can't believe they are not making this issue public. Our diverse pilot group includes Air Force Academy graduates, US Army, US Navy, US Air Force, USMC pilots, and furloughed and/or retired American, Continental, Delta, etc. On first glimpse, the cabin interior is impressive, with a two-place bench seat opposite the door, a single sideways-facing seat on the same side as the door and four club-arranged seats leading to a full privacy toilet. Rockwell Collins Pro Line 21 avionics suite also debuted in the Avanti II. WebAs the factory-authorized training provider for Piaggio Aeros P.180 Avanti, Avanti II and Avanti EVO models, FlightSafety has created in-depth, type-specific programs to ensure that pilots and maintenance technicians of Piaggio Aero aircraft are equipped with the latest in safety training. Space laundry washing throughout the week. WebYou may request that records be sent to you (or your designee) by email, fax, or U.S. mail. I kept on the controls through a number of heading changes much up into the midteens before switching on the autopilot. AOPA Members DO more LEARN more SAVE more - Get MORE out of being a pilot -. These were retracted as we accelerated toward 160 knots. Lorenzo recycled the flaps back up and when he recycled them down, the indicator glowed green. It is not, at least not primarily. Viva VNR! At 10:21:49, there was 1000 feet of vertical separation and 0.9 nautical miles of lateral separation between the two aircraft. I was told my aircraft was on extended maintenance (whatever that meant, now I know). As we tracked toward this point, Lorenzo handed me back control for the last approach. As the flaps travel, there is a nose up pitch that is easily counteracted with slight forward pressure on the column and trim. Landing the P.180, as Id heard previously, is interesting in that the attitude is very flat. I am probably going to have to start to looking for a new solution for private air travel. In flight, the Avanti handles much like its competition, but the jet-like takeoff and landing speeds, lack of FADEC, narrow gear track, twitchy electric steering, and grabby carbon brakes combine to make the airplane more of a handful than your run-of-the-mill King Air or Cessna Conquest. Villanova requires a specific qualification as it sits in a bowl surrounded by mountains with an MSA of 11,200 feet to the west, so Villi briefed he would fly the departure from Runway 9 and demonstrate a performance takeoff. In the end, the Avanti IIs configuration allows it to achieve light jet speeds in the same way as light jets do, by using a very small, highly loaded wing to go with a good dose of power. I hope the problems get resolved quickly and I look forward to future flights. I am disappointed that there has been no communication out to the owners about this grounding and if you go to their website it doesn't mention anything and it looks like business as usual. That is a sign of a company that cares about its pilots. I got an email at about 10:30 last night saying cancelled for the reasons stated in this email, with the same offer to find me a charter ay my expense. He placed his left foot at the base of the carpet behind the central instrument panel and stepped forward with his right, placing his foot inboard of the control column and gracefully followed with his left. But that there are some management issues. .intend to return to the 121 world. Pete Bedell is a pilot for a major airline and co-owner of a Cessna 172M and Beechcraft Baron D55. Pilots are being pushed to the extreme limits of duty time and rest and general morale simply could not be lower company-wide. Aircraft Owners & Pilots Association Find it free on the store, Powerplants / (2) 850-shp Pratt & Whitney Some operators use a Garmin 430 mounted on the far left side of the panel. Piaggio will also increase the Evo's maximum zero fuel weight (MZFW) to 10,200 pounds, up from 9,800 pounds. The Starships forward canard controls pitch whereas the Avanti has a conventional stabilizer/elevator surface. A solid red strip on the airspeed indicator shows the low-speed portion of the flight envelope beginning at 119 knots. Once on the runway and cleared for takeoff, we checked to make sure the flaps were set for takeoff and the steering was too there are different modes depending on how fast youre traveling though theres no tiller and that our trims and condition lever were correctly set. First, the gear came down below 180 knots, then mid- and finally full-stage flaps and we were nicely stabilized at 500 feet. The crew brought a crippled aircraft safely to the runway, but departed the runway with the crosswind condition. Many products featured on this site were editorially chosen. We are enhancing our maintenance and operational infrastructure so that it surpasses every standard that applies to the aircraft we fly. Yes, the Captain, a mere mortal and an infallible being, DID miss the elevator on his post flight inspection. When I did, I asked about why I was paying for it, and was told "Well we usually do, but this time we were instructed otherwise.". The second records shows a Piaggio P-180 I stayed on the flight director as we climbed, quickly getting into IMC and getting rapid-fire climb-and-maintain clearances along the way. Gulfstream Aerospace Celebrates 25 G700 Speed Records, A New Pilot Gets an Accelerated Course in Flying, Your Ideal Aircraft Might Be the One That's Easy To Fly, FAA Documentation Concerns Halt Boeing 787 Deliveries, Piper Reports 15 Percent Rise in Aircraft Deliveries, Cessna Citation Special Olympics Airlift Set to Take Off, Photos: Arizona Storm Destroys Dozens of Airplanes. The second engine was started and after-start checks completed. | Terms of Use | Privacy Policy | Content Policy. As the factory-authorized training provider for these aircraft, we have created in-depth, type-specific programs to ensure that pilots and technicians are equipped with the latest in safety training. On climb-out, especially given the steep angle of attack of the impressive-climbing P.180, its hard to see much out front at all. We are not infallible, and mistakes have definitely been made, but we do not deserve the acrid bile from those on this board who have obvious agendas and would celebrate our downfall. Where the two designs are in accord is that they are both largely stall proof. I had a few seconds to get the feel of the Evo in the landing configuration before I was flaring for touchdown and gradually closing the power levers. Please note that not all records are available electronically. Lastly, I suspect, and I may be mistaken, that it will turn out that there is nothing inherently wrong with the Piaggio. P180 Avanti Special Cabin Configurations. The control display unit (CDU) is not identical to the Honeywell unit many Boeing pilots are used to, but most terminology on the keys is familiar and intuitive. He said the airplane was slightly right of the runway centerline and that there was a right crosswind. Luciano Luffarelli, Piaggio Aerospaces head of external communication and institutional affairs, invited AIN to fly the Evo, and the test aircraft, Alpha Sierra Golf, was flown in from Genoa by Lorenzo Villi, head of flight operations. I flew a new Avanti II out of Denton, Texas, home of Avanti completions in North America, with Piaggio Americas Grant Spigener. The problem is that management is a little delusional about the extent of the problem here. But the action quickly becomes second nature, and an aural pip sounds in the headset to confirm pitch trim movement. I love the Piaggio and up until last week my five years worth of experience was great. I just read about the one that flipped, but understand, it is only this issue that has me looking at ntsb reports, it is not something most fractional owners do before every flight. Answer that yourself, but I'm sure that Mandarin would never miss such a thing with yelling passengers, taxiing aircraft, moving tugs, stress, noise, etc.. Yes, it does have three lifting surfaces, a T-tail and two pusher propellers but its how they are put together that is the important thing. I followed Lorenzos example, if anything being a bit more aggressive with the speed decay. Vref lists the value of a 1990 P180 at $846,600 ranging up to $6.1 million for a 2019 Avanti Evo. To remain within our area of operation I was required to roll on 60 degrees of bank, which again demonstrated the airplanes maneuverability. Luckily it was 2007 and we sold it just before the crash. At FL350, the speed remained stable even with back pressure applied to maintain altitude, and the aircraft was easy to control. On the ground, however, the Avantis overflight noise footprint is on the high scale, which is typical of pusher designs. The power levers were manually adjusted as we climbed to maintain 100 percent torque, shown on the engine indicating system on the top of the central multifunction display (MFD) in green. This produced a rate of descent of just over 4,000 fpm, the maximum, as there are no flight spoilers and the gear limit is 180 knots. Max cruise speed / 400 KTAS It pulled the concept off. Occupants can converse easily, as can the pilots. It has delivered nearly 200. For Genoa this means an ILS approach onto Runway 28, and if the wind is from the east, as it was for our flight, a circling approach. At FL380, you can expect 380 KTAS on 600 pounds per hour in an Avanti II. Ive removed Kyles email address above since this is not a pilot placement service, and Ive also deleted a charter companys post trolling for business from Avantair customers. The Avanti feels very stable and is easy to maintain altitude in while hand-flying compared with other airplanes in and around its class. If the fleet was grounded last saturday then why were pilots sent out assignments to fly? The approach speeds are very fast by turboprop standards. The start-up sequence is pure PT6; its a completely pilot-controlled process. It is by far the worst disorganized fractional and needs a miracle of improvement. On the Avanti, each unique characteristic of the aircraft is firmly rooted in function. Web Conserve water to avoid overloading the septic system. Whatever the outcome, it was and is an honor and a blast to serve our Owners and work with my fellow VNR employees. The Avanti takes that formula and pushes it to the design edge, achieving that performance with a great deal less power than in comparable jet products and with the best cabin in the class by a long shot. Avantair and the Avanti have tremendous potential, if we make it. Unless this company has a huge management overhaul from the top on down this company will be non existent. I know from my perspective, it was going to be close as to whether I was going to use my minimum hours this year (even after being able to roll some to next year). "Piaggio gets confirmation of Avanti speed records". AINonline. Aviation International News. Archived from the original on 5 September 2018. Retrieved 16 June 2017. ^ Aboulafia, Richard. The lower section, containing two integral carpeted steps, is released by a handle on the left and lowered into position. But as soon as Lorenzo released the back pressure and added power, the aircraft recovered and we were flying at 140 knots. In ground idle and with power pulled back to idle, the airplane still has a tendency, like many turboprops, to get going too fast, so you need to use beta to keep things slowed down. Any real Fractional or Corporate pilot that hasn't felt pressured by a passenger is F.O.S. Bleed air would have been nice, but by the time it had traveled the distance from the engines, its not clear that it would have been very hot anymore, and the bleed air used to heat the wing leading edges robs the turboprops of a great deal of power to begin with. On Saturday, fractional provider Avantair grounded its entire fleet of about 60 Piaggio Avanti twin turboprops to conduct a comprehensive examination of all maintenance records and aircraft. According to industry sources, the action stemmed from an incident earlier this year in which an Avantair Avanti shed an elevator in flight. They have a history of lying. http://aerossurance.com/safety-management/guilty-plea-obstructing-ntsb/, Passenger - Non-Scheduled/charter/Air Taxi, Updated [Time, Damage, Category, Investigating agency], Updated [Time, Departure airport, Destination airport, Source, Narrative], Updated [Time, Other fatalities, Departure airport, Destination airport, Source, Narrative], Updated [Other fatalities, Source, Embed code, Narrative]. WebSECTION A: GENERAL, P.180 Avanti Type Design A.I. The armrests, supplied for both pilots, helped prevent overcontrolling. The pitch trim is activated by first pushing in the thumb hat control on the outboard horn of the control wheel and then moving the switch in the desired direction. Its a hard transition for a pilot coming back to PT6s after having flown modern fadec turbofans from Williams and, yes, from Pratt & Whitney. Pilot Report: Piaggio Avanti Evo - Aviation International Pilatus PC-12 or Piaggio P.180 Checklist? You know get them off the insurance roll. What's done in the dark always comes to light. The Aviation Safety Network is an exclusive service provided by: The twin-engine airplane departed 23 minutes behind schedule to pick up passengers at an intermediate airport. Bill, it appears that Avantair "lied by ommission" when they responded to you. WebThe Piaggio P180 Avanti II twin-engine turboprop business aircraft is the successor to the P180 Avanti, of which more than 100 have been produced since its entry into service in Had this been a 121 flight, the Captain could have had the passengers detained for interfering with a flight crew and stomping out on the supposedly "secured" ramp, but this isn't 121. The continuous curve of the fuselage generates approximately one-third of the overall lift, reducing the required size of the wings and thus minimizing drag. The professional pilots at Avantair greatly appreciate our owners support and contribution to our careers and livelihoods. The biggest problem I had was in remembering that I wasnt flying a jet and that mounted 30 feet in back of me, completely out of sight, were two turboprop engines. WebPostaccident examination revealed both nose gear tires were deflated, and the right main tire had low air pressure. Could it happen to anyone else? We exited left at the end, and Lorenzo cleaned the aircraft up as I got my last chance to handle the Avanti Evo while we taxied back toward the ramp. Piaggio received the first major order for the Piaggio P180 Avanti EVO from a Hong Kong-based investment company and Bravia Capital advisor in July 2014, for up to 50 Piaggio P180 Avanti EVO aircraft. Piaggios home airfield is surrounded by terrain, and the approach is offset from the inbound course. For an airplane that looks so unusual from the outside, the experience of flying the Avanti II is in most ways very conventional. Villi led a thorough guided tour of the outside of the airplane and explained all of its many unique features. He descended to 1,000 feet to position for a visual arrival to Runway 10 with a touch-and-go. The Nov. 16, 2011 engine failure and emergency landing at Flint, MI and veering off the runway and flipping on its back (all 4 occupants suffered minor injuries) shows pilot poor skills for sure and serious concern about engine maintenance. We owned a King Air 200 several years ago in partnership with another company which was great except the other company ran into trouble and couldn't pay their half. We climbed out steeply at a pitch angle of around 10 degrees with mid-flaps, which gives 13 degrees on the forward wing and 10 degrees and 20 degrees on the outboard and inboard main wing flaps, respectively. I suspect, that they may be going over all documents now for a variety of reasons. Villi took control from me to give me a rest. Stay tuned. To demonstrate the first stall, Villi leveled at 15,000 feet, and with the power levers remaining closed, we decelerated at 1.5 knots per second as shown by the purple trend vector on the PFD airspeed strip. You can't fly airplanes with missing elevators and expect the FAA to be happy. WebThis rare Piaggio P-180 Avanti is an Italien executive transport aircraft with twin turboprop engines mounted in pusher configuration. What we didnt fully realize is that over the next 20 years no light jet would emerge that could challenge the P.180s remarkable combination of speed, fuel efficiency and cabin size, a trifecta of strengths that has made it a popular transportation airplane with operators for whom efficiency, comfort and high style are the hallmarks of having arrived. Its a great formula. Of course we do. 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